(13 December, 2009)
It is possible to get two dyes to oscillate together in one cuvette. This has been reported in the literature, probably several times. It is also possible to use one dye to capture incoming pump light and transfer it to a second dye, and this sometimes results in two-color lasing if the concentrations of the two dyes are appropriate for that.
Getting three dyes to lase together at the same time, however, is not easy. In fact it can easily be an exercise in futility, and even if you succeed, the output power is not likely to be very high. Nonetheless, it seemed like an interesting challenge, and a few days ago I set out to try to do it.
(Note, added 23 December, 2009: It turns out that simultaneous 3-color lasing has also been reported in the literature. See the citation at the end of the page.)
The first order of business was to choose a pump source, but that was easy: I have recently rebuilt one of my nitrogen lasers, and it was sitting on the bench waiting for me to do something with it.
The next thing I needed was a set of intercompatible
dyes. It seemed fairly obvious that because both Red and
Green dyes could possibly “steal” energy
from Blue I should choose a Blue dye first, and then add
longer wavelengths. Likewise, because the red dye could
take energy from the green dye, it should be chosen
last. Before I get to the dyes I ended up using, though,
I would like to take a sidestep to discuss a sidelight.
A friend very kindly sent me small samples of several
BASF dyes. Here is one of them, Lumogen F Orange 240, in
acetone. Orange 240 fluoresces extremely well, but does
not absorb well at 337 nm, so the pump beam penetrates
much too far into the solution. The dye is lasing, but
not strongly.
Here is 7-Diethylamino-4-Methyl-Coumarin, also dissolved
in acetone, pumped by the nitrogen laser. 7-DE-4-MC absorbs
very well at 337 nm, as you can see by the fact that the
pump beam barely gets into the solution at all.
It also happens to be a very good blue laser, though it
was discovered very early. (One of its other names is
“Coumarin 1”.)
Here is what happens when I add small amounts of Lumogen
F Orange 240 to the solution of
7-Diethylamino-4-Methyl-Coumarin. (I got the spectra by
holding an inexpensive plastic replica diffraction
grating in front of the camera when I took the photos.
I added the thin vertical white line, toward the right,
so I could position the images correctly when I put them
together for this comparison.)
The top spectrum is just 7DE4MC. It lases brightly
enough that you can see the second-order spectrum
at the left of the image.
Starting with the second spectrum, there is enough
Orange 240 present that it is lasing.
By the fourth spectrum, there is so much Orange 240
present that the 7DE4MC can barely lase at all. It
is still absorbing the pump light, however, and the
extinction depth is still very shallow:
(Sorry the larger image is so small. I didn’t
have the camera zoomed in enough.)
There are two significant things going on here. First,
notice that as the concentration of Orange 240 gets
higher, the wavelength at which it lases gets longer, up
to a point. This is because the absorption curve
slightly overlaps the emission curve, and when the
concentration is high the dye absorbs enough of the
short-wavelength end of its emission spectrum that it
can only lase at longer wavelengths. This is true of all
or nearly all dyes, and is one way of tuning the output
of a dye laser, though it is (obviously) not very
precise.
Second, notice that as the concentration of Orange 240
gets higher, the position of the blue laser emission
moves very slightly to shorter
wavelengths. Let’s think about this for a
moment. While it is true that adding orange dye dilutes
the blue solution slightly, which would cause a shift
toward shorter wavelengths, I don’t think
that’s responsible for the majority of the effect
here.
If direct energy transfer is going on, then some of the
excited 7DE4MC molecules give energy to molecules of the
other dye instead of emitting light. Those molecules do
not have any particular effect on the output wavelength
of the blue dye, because they are not participating in
lasing. (If anything, because they are back in the
ground state, they can absorb, so they would tend to
“push” the output very slightly toward
longer wavelengths.)
If, on the other hand, the excited blue dye molecules
are emitting photons, which are then being absorbed by
molecules of the other dye, then we could see a shift in
the blue laser wavelength. If the absorption of the
other dye is stronger near the long-wavelength end of
the emission of the blue dye, we can expect to see the
blue laser wavelength become shorter as we add more of
the other dye, and in fact we appear to be seeing at
least some of that here. The effect, however, is not
pronounced, and there is a fair chance that we are
actually seeing both direct transfer and reabsorption of
photons by the second dye.
Here is an example that seems to be less aambiguous. To
make these photos, I first mixed a quantity of 7-DE-4-MC
in acetone. Then I divided it into two parts, one of
which I poured into the cuvette. I added another BASF
dye, Lumogen F Rot 305, to the other part. (Like Orange
240, Rot 305 has excellent fluorescence efficiency, but
does not absorb well at 337; it lases on its own when
pumped by the nitrogen laser, though not as well as
Orange 240.)
The photo on the left shows the pattern, the cuvette,
and the spectra, with a modest amount of Rot 305 added.
If you look at the spectrum of the cuvette, you will see
that the red emission shows up there quite a bit before
there is any red lasing from the dye solution. (There
appears to be a hint of red lasing in the diffuse part
of the output spectrum, but I think that’s an
artifact. Notice the fact that the same area that has
some red in it in the spectrum [left side] is blue-green
in the output pattern on the target [right side]. My
suspicion is that the light was bright enough to
overpower the filters in the camera’s sensor. This
is supported by the color of the bright laser spot,
which is blue-green in the spectrum and nearly white in
the pattern; to the eye, they are both blue.)
The photo on the right shows spectra with various
amounts of Rot 305 added to the solution. Because the
Rot 305 solution contained the same amount of 7-DE-4-MC
as what was already in the cuvette, there is no
dilution, and thus no opportunity for a dilution effect.
The top spectrum shows 7-DE-4-MC alone; the rest show
changes as I progressively added more Rot 305. I have
drawn fine black lines through the centers of the
patterns on the image, so you can see that the center of
the blue output moves very slightly toward longer
wavelengths with increasing red concentration. Unless
the absorption of Rot 305 is very even across the entire
emission spectrum of 7-DE-4-MC, this is fairly clear
evidence that much of the transfer is by direct energy
transfer, and only a little of it is by emission and
reabsorption.
(I am looking for an example in which there is a strong
reabsorption effect. When I find one, I will put a set
of photos here.)
These effects have been studied and reported in much
greater detail and with far more accuracy in the
literature on dye lasers than I can provide here; if you
are interested, you should do a literature search. That
would be wiser than taking my word for how these things
work, as I could easily be incorrect about various parts
of this.
...Back to the project:
I tried three possible blue candidates, and ended up
using 7-Hydroxy-4-Methyl-Coumarin as the blue dye in the
set. This dye, which is clearly very closely related to
7-Diethylamino-4-Methyl-Coumarin, is often called
4-Methyl-Umbelliferone. I dissolved it in 95% Ethanol,
with a few drops of strong ammonia added. (4-MU lases
best in basic solution.)
[I will note here that I am glossing over quite a bit of
effort. Trying to find compatible Red and Green emitters
for the three potential blue candidates took about two
days.]
Once I got a solution of 4-MU lasing nicely I added some
Fluorescein to get green. Fluorescein absorbs only
moderately well at 337.1 nm, and is not optimal for
nitrogen-laser pumping on its own, but it tolerates
basic solution extremely well and might be expected to
take energy from 4-MU, as in fact it did. Too well, in
fact: I had to dilute it considerably in order to get
any blue lasing at all.
Once I had blue and green I tried Rhodamine B for Red;
but adding even a very small amount to the mixture, far
less than would have been required to get any lasing in
the red, quenched the Fluorescein, and the green just
went away.
Fortunately, some time ago a friend had donated a
small amount of Rhodamine 640 Perchlorate, which turns
out to be compatible with the other two dyes, and can
lase in basic solutions.
The next issue was achieving the proper balance. It
was only moderately difficult to get three colors at
once, and I saw some very pretty output patterns
but they were not well balanced, and they did
not produce a reasonably good beam.
In order to balance the three colors I was obliged to
adjust the concentrations of all three dyes, which I did
by either adding a tiny amount of one dye or another to
the solution, by diluting the solution, or both. One
problem is that if you get any of the dyes too
concentrated, it tends to quench. If the amount of
output decreases as you add more dye, that’s
almost invariably a sign that you need to dilute the dye
solution.
After a certain amount of madness, I finally managed to
get close to a reasonable balance:
If you compare this photo with the photo of 7-DE-4-MC
lasing, you will notice that combining three dyes in one
cuvette is not a good way to get lots of output. In
fact, dividing the pump laser beam into three beams,
using each of them to pump a cuvette containing one dye
(or two dyes, where one does not absorb well at the pump
wavelength, so the other is transferring energy to it),
and then using optics to combine the three beams, is
likely to get you considerably more RGB light. Still, it
was a fun project, in addition to being instructive.
When I began it I did not recall seeing simultaneous
3-color lasing reported in the literature on dye lasers
(but see the citation below). I’m sure there are
other sets of 3 or possibly 4 dyes that can be lased
together with nitrogen pumping, and I would expect that
even more could be done with an excimer laser as the
pump source.
I will caution you, however: you are not likely to
achieve success if your nitrogen laser is at all wimpy;
mine appears to put out about 200 kW, and I suspect that
it is marginal for this application. In addition,
balancing the dye solution to get reasonably equal
output in all three colors is distressingly tweaky,
and you will have to exercise a great deal of patience
if you expect to attain success.
Dye-mixture laser tunable in three primary color regions
with a linear variable filter
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Reference
Yasunori Saito, Koji Shimodaira, Akio Nomura, and Tetsuo Kano
Applied Optics, Vol. 34, Issue 3, pp. 432-434
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